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    So we have decided to test an i3 over a few days this week to see if it fits in with our lifestyle/usage

    Wednesday is the most challenging day with a 23 mile each way trip to work (no charging available during the day) then a 17 mile each way trip later in the evening - with about 1 1/2 hours in between - so total daily mileage normally 46 miles but for one day a week is 80 miles - just about doable

    Picked the car up yesterday and surprised to see full charge showing 66 mile range - the car is brand new having only covered 65 miles. We thought the range show was due to the previous style of driving being used to calculate likely range

    Set off today and again after a nights charge range shown as 64 miles - return home tonight with only 10 miles shown on range - journey is half motorway half urban roads. This meant that the evening journey was a no starter.

    Quite frustrated as I am an 'ev'angelist and was really keen to make it work - I don't really want to consider the Range Extender version. Even with a 32A home charge it would have been a struggle

    The normal daily journey would work, its just the extra journey at night which we do weekly that is an issue - plus the fact I expected the car to show more than 66 miles range on a full charge.

    I think I will have to put the idea on the back-burner

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    That's useful to know........

    I'm considering one for my daily commute as my employer has put 6 free charging bays in the car park. I was thinking total cheapskate and charging all day at work so effectively free fuel but it is a 30 mile commute and if some bugger has parked in 'my' space then I'd struggle to get home based on your feedback and I couldn't risk not charging at home......

    I may borrow one and try it for a week. The problem is there are no EV's now but on a site of 2000 people some will soon cotton on.

    Plan B required.....How far does a Model S go

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    Do try one Mike - and for more than one day

    They are supposed to do 85 + miles on a charge so I will speak to the BMW guy later - it may just be that this particular car I had needs to learn how its driven to get a better, more accurate range

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    Andrew 64 was the max I saw as well, if pushed it dropped below this as well, in the end it was just too restrictive compared to the cost, a shame as it was good fun even with being prone to massive understeer

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    Andrew a work colleague had a Nissan Leaf on trial for a week it claims to have a 124 mile range I drove it around the block and was pleasantly surprised my daily commute is 52 miles each way

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    The Leaf I had last winter was about 70 miles and it is surprising how many people have around that size of journey - the catch was that you could only guarantee it if you had no heating or any other accessories on and you knew you were going not to detour eg shopping or gym - which is hopeless if there is even the slightest possibility of no interim charging

    The Leaf now has an increased range and I believe the i3's increase is about a year away

    Moral: don't look at anything with less than a hundred mile range

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    Quote Originally Posted by jos View Post
    The Leaf now has an increased range and I believe the i3's increase is about a year away
    That may be what I need to wait for, Jos

    Leaf just doesn't appeal to me at the moment despite increased range and being UK built (including the batteries)

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    Quote Originally Posted by F355GTS View Post
    Andrew 64 was the max I saw as well, if pushed it dropped below this as well, in the end it was just too restrictive compared to the cost, a shame as it was good fun even with being prone to massive understeer
    Agree it was fun and we seriously were considering one

    Yes it understands but high- ish power/ torque, front wheel drive, skinny tyres plus a focus on safety first before driving dynamics = under steer

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    I think this just proves that the whole battery/charging thing is just a dead end. Limited range and if you are concerned about the environment then what the hell do we do with the batteries once they are knackered (which may be after a few years of use ).

    I did consider an electric vehicle for local shopping/gym/etc and have even installed a 10mm twin and earth cable through a new extension for an electric car charging point at some future point, but looking at the charge times and limited range, I have given up on the electric car idea and am waiting for hydrogen powered cars.

    Whilst liquid hydrogen has a lower calorific value than petrol, you can burn it in a conventional internal combustion engine, or run it through a fuel cell to generate electricity. Clean fresh air and steam comes out of the exhaust. Nuclear power can produce unlimited amounts of Hydrogen gas through electrolysis with no greenhouse gases. Instant refuel in the same way that you refill your petrol car, and I bet you that once hydrogen gas in readily available we will all be getting conversion kits to run our classic Ferrari petrol cars on liquid hydrogen gas. It could work in the same way as LPG gas with a replacement fuel tank, gas injection equipment and revised engine ECU. I saw it done 30 years ago on some yank v8's so its not rocket science.

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    I think the whole commuting lifestyle is a dead end.

    We down-sized floor space wise and moved into the city centre when the kids became teenagers and my only regret is not doing it earlier. I don't sit in a car for two hours a day and now most of my driving is for pleasure. We have a Toyota iQ for the city that does a genuine 50-60mpg and can always find a parking space. And the other cars in our parking spaces are for pleasure or the occasional long haul. We have looked into EV but for now a well sorted petrol city car is way ahead. Had an i3 for the weekend and I couldn't see the point as part from little city drives the range was just so limited.

    The Greenest thing most of us can do with our cars is move house.

    WW2 was a long time ago it's time to return to the cities and take motoring back to being a leisure activity.

    I hope roads go the way of the canals so in my retirement there are only leisure users on them.

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