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    Quote Originally Posted by Nosevi View Post
    To be fair they're very good at what they're designed for. Sadly you lot down south seem to want to drive them on roads and that isn't it.
    I live out in the countryside...It seems to me that most of the people needing a utility vehicle out here seem to have these instead...

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    Outside of the military I can think of very few people who actually needed a Defender for what they were originally designed for. Modern electronics, tyres and other advances eroded their superiority for most applications.

    Don't get me wrong, I loved the way they looked, and loved the fact that a British design was loved enough that it stayed in production for so long. But you either had to be a midget (OK, sub 5'8") or a masochist to use one as regular transport.

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    That's fair but I'll see if I can give my comments perspective - there's countryside then there's .......

    Literally just been for a walk near my house. Up through the woods:

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    Out across the fens a bit:

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    Up to this point here:

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    Blue sign you can see to the left of the gate?

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    Only in Lincolnshire would we describe that as a "highway"!

    Out here they are great. The Yeti gets by but it's a compromise - wife, kids, something like a Defender isn't going to work for us. People try to make them work as normal daily transport but that was never what they were designed to do. I used to have a Wrangler which was far better off the beaten track than the Yeti but again it was too rough around the edges for family transport.

    I remain to be convinced by the new Defender, I think it'll try to be too comfy and lose what a Defender was. A great car I'm sure just not a Defender. A little like building a big 'mini' it'll stop being what the original was supposed to be.

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    you need a Range Rover then - far more civilised

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    My 1979 bad weather "dog wagon" (not dogging wagon!!)
    Hand painted in green and black hammerite.
    I had to move the spare wheel onto the bonnet from the original fitment in the back because my Great Dane chewed lumps out of it.
    Turning circle of a supertanker... and brakes to match
    Good to hear it is going up in value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markst View Post
    you need a Range Rover then - far more civilised
    Depends what you're doing really. When the Wrangler got dirty inside you could just hose it down..... and I do mean literally - was upholstered in what they termed 'Trail Cloth'. Looked good but was basically indestructible. Engine would run totally submerged although none of the fords I went through fully tested that feature, got close though. A Range Rover is a totally different beast from a Wrangler or now old Defender.

    Kind of why I don't see the point of the new Defender - you have (or had) the Range Rover, the Discovery and the Defender. If you don't want a totally rugged and basic off-roader go buy a Discovery, want more luxury buy a Range Rover. By scrapping the Defender and replacing it with a slightly smaller Discovery you lose something and I'm not sure you gain a lot. We'll see, not seen the new Defender up close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by renmure View Post
    My 1979 bad weather "dog wagon" (not dogging wagon!!)
    Hand painted in green and black hammerite.
    I had to move the spare wheel onto the bonnet from the original fitment in the back because my Great Dane chewed lumps out of it.
    Turning circle of a supertanker... and brakes to match
    Good to hear it is going up in value.

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    Nice

    Imagine your Great Dane chewing lumps out of your Range Rover interior. But that's the point isn't it - Defenders can take anything........ even hammerite paint jobs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nosevi View Post
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    Up to this point here:

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    Blue sign you can see to the left of the gate?

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    Only in Lincolnshire would we describe that as a "highway"!
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    Pah. Where I live that's regarded a well maintained main road! Our XC90 on decent tyres manages that sort of stuff for breakfast in all weathers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murph7355 View Post
    Our XC90 on decent tyres manages that sort of stuff for breakfast in all weathers
    a Volvo........they go very nicely with a pipe and slippers


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    Quote Originally Posted by Murph7355 View Post
    Pah. Where I live that's regarded a well maintained main road! Our XC90 on decent tyres manages that sort of stuff for breakfast in all weathers
    Yes, but that's the point - the Volvo or Yeti are for this side of the sign. The Defender is for when you go past it

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    Quote Originally Posted by markst View Post
    a Volvo........they go very nicely with a pipe and slippers

    Careful or he'll quote you mosning about not getting enough golf kit in a Defender

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