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    I'm not sure Mark Carney is a good example since the British people didn't buy into his 'Project Fear' and his only response was to recently crank it up for 'Project Hysteria'

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    "The fact of the matter is that will be worse off out of the EU without question"
    - financially, maybe so. But to be honest Mark Carney's end of the world predictions after the vote didn't come to pass. Not every business is pro remain, with Dyson being one of them. And to be honest, who would I trust more on such matters? a self made billionaire or an institutionalised suite? I like Mark (being 1/2 Canadian I might be biased) and thought he was doing a good job until he opened his gob re. Brexit!)
    - sovereignty - no;
    - law - no;
    - immigration - no (There's absolutely nothing stopping the UK, defining whatever skills and numbers requirements etc it requires, and that includes low skilled works. Now whether the civil servants/politicians have the wit to do this is another thing; and from my experience of getting staff visas unfortunately I doubt it.)


    I doubt her plan will get through either; however its Monday and my pint glass is 1/2 full, so I'm hoping that she is planning on using the negative result as a bargaining chip with the EU (assuming they have woken up to reality this week and the fact they have as near as much to loose as we do with a no/poor deal. Again doubtful.). At the end of the day as we all know negotiations are never finished to the absolute last minute so all the press and childish MPs expecting negotiations to be completed months before the deadline will just have to wait a bit longer. And we will all have to suffer a few more months of sensationalist/biased news reporting.

    Anyway, enough procrastination for one morning...I've a mountain of work to be doing!

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    The reality is that we were never going to be allowed to leave anyhow. The majority of our elected politicians are Remainers.

    May's deal isn't really Brexit and what's the bet that once this whole charade play's out - we're still in (either with May's plan or longer term via another general election?)

    We will end up remaining within the EU

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    And they are all acting like spoilt children at the moment with only their self interest at heart.

    The fact that I pay their salary pisses me off. Wether you like her or not, the only one acting with any decorum of integrity is May.

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    So......

    If she goes (and I think she’ll win the vote BTW)...
    Could a new PM (and the UK) unilaterally withdraw article 50 then resubmit it once some actual planning has taken place.
    It’s a 2 year maximum limit..

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    Quote Originally Posted by candellara View Post
    The reality is that we were never going to be allowed to leave anyhow. The majority of our elected politicians are Remainers.

    May's deal isn't really Brexit and what's the bet that once this whole charade play's out - we're still in (either with May's plan or longer term via another general election?)

    We will end up remaining within the EU
    Can't wholly disagree with all of the above but I don't think we'll stay in. I still think we could well be heading for EFTA.

    Have we left the EU? Yes so they can say they delivered on the referendum which only asked that question. Do we still have many of the ties in terms of the economy? Yes. TBH I struggle to see the downside as personally the whole freedom of movement thing has never been an issue to me and I'm guessing a good many who voted Leave. I actually don't think it'd be that bad an option given the choices.

    http://www.efta.int/faq

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    I was on the fence over Brexit and I did, at the last minute vote to leave.
    Since then with a low £ the company I work for has just got busier and wealthier. I'm in a for a bonus again this Christmas and to me a healthy bonus (I'm just a system admin employee).

    Onwards and upwards. We do have a European head office in Germany which helps a bit. I'd say we export 50/50 Europe/Asia.

    I'll worry about Brexit when/if it happens and not a day before. ****all I can do about it anyway.

    EU is the Hotel California. In fact I think the song was written with that in mind.

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