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    Hi there

    Can anyone recomend any good books to buy on the 599 please?

    Looking into the purchase of one and like to do my homework

    Thanks in advance

    Nick

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    Not too sure if there are any good books - better off looking at previous threads and finding a pdf of the owners manual as preparation

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    Speak to Ed at Christian Lewis. When I was buying a 599 he opened my eyes to a huge amount of information about the car that I wouldn't have known otherwise, there are some very specific things to this car such as particular fluids etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgt View Post
    Speak to Ed at Christian Lewis. When I was buying a 599 he opened my eyes to a huge amount of information about the car that I wouldn't have known otherwise, there are some very specific things to this car such as particular fluids etc.
    Thanks
    Will do

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    Check out the USA forums some have model specific sections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FF1078 View Post
    Hi there

    Can anyone recomend any good books to buy on the 599 please?

    Looking into the purchase of one and like to do my homework

    Thanks in advance

    Nick

    I owned 3 for a total of 6 Years so happy to answer any questions you may have

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    Quote Originally Posted by F355GTS View Post
    I owned 3 for a total of 6 Years so happy to answer any questions you may have
    Thanks F355GTS
    Is it ok to PM you please?

    Nick

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    Quote Originally Posted by FF1078 View Post
    Thanks F355GTS
    Is it ok to PM you please?

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    Of course

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    I have had mine for a while now and have campaigned it twice in the Mille Miglia Tribute. I have also started a gentle resto-mod approach and am aware of most issues due to a close relationship with the factory / dealership teams. Last week I spent a lot of time pouring over a 70,000 mile UK car that is providing a lot of UK use case data. The good news is the 599 is proving to be a very very reliable mechanical package. Apart from brakes and the normal Ferrari ball joints that Enzo engine (albeit in a slightly de-tuned package) clearly loves being sat up-front of the big super GT. I call it this because the 599 and the subsequent V12's are IMO in a class of their own. A 200+mph supercar all day long and can do things that utterly defy their physics and assumed niche. The 599 is one of the most rewarding and technical cars I have had the pleasure of driving and I include various racing weapons in that too. The chassis is something that takes a deliberate and technical driving approach but one that rewards when you get it right like few others. The massive performance means that an F1 gearbox and Carbon brakes are a must BUT The brakes, tyres and consumable elements of the suspension are the main running costs long term. 20-30k miles is the life of the CCM discs and the worst thing for their longevity is catalytic oxidation which is accelerated wear due to cleaning product residues soaking into the disc material. Stock suspension bushes and ball-joints last 15-20k miles but upgraded items are available. With labour it's a 6-7k job but on fresh components it's easy to see why the 599 was an ECOTY.

    Engine mounts and drive shafts get hard work-outs from all the power and the former should be changed every 25k in whilst the Drive shafts simply need separating from the gearbox and re-assembling with the correct jointing compound. The penalty for engine movement at the end of engine mount life is occasional inlet leaks which throw up CEL's and require new clamps for the throttle body connection. Parking sensors are very vulnerable to stone strikes as they are very low to the road surface and many cars have had them 'repaired' on the cheap. These plus TPMS errors also seem to send the electrics into a confused state - battery life on the tyre sensors is circa 8-9years and pattern ones will program temporarily but then drop out every few journeys leading to ongoing issues.

    Many 599's get put up for sale when some of these bills present and it's easy to present a car with a FSH and no visible issues that may well need 10-20k spending in a very short time. Proper inspection is required by a tipo specialist AND invoices to go with ownership. Running a V12 is a big undertaking but also massively rewarding. Of all my automotive experiences the 599 is the pinnacle even within some supposedly better cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Modificato View Post
    I have had mine for a while now and have campaigned it twice in the Mille Miglia Tribute. I have also started a gentle resto-mod approach and am aware of most issues due to a close relationship with the factory / dealership teams. Last week I spent a lot of time pouring over a 70,000 mile UK car that is providing a lot of UK use case data. The good news is the 599 is proving to be a very very reliable mechanical package. Apart from brakes and the normal Ferrari ball joints that Enzo engine (albeit in a slightly de-tuned package) clearly loves being sat up-front of the big super GT. I call it this because the 599 and the subsequent V12's are IMO in a class of their own. A 200+mph supercar all day long and can do things that utterly defy their physics and assumed niche. The 599 is one of the most rewarding and technical cars I have had the pleasure of driving and I include various racing weapons in that too. The chassis is something that takes a deliberate and technical driving approach but one that rewards when you get it right like few others. The massive performance means that an F1 gearbox and Carbon brakes are a must BUT The brakes, tyres and consumable elements of the suspension are the main running costs long term. 20-30k miles is the life of the CCM discs and the worst thing for their longevity is catalytic oxidation which is accelerated wear due to cleaning product residues soaking into the disc material. Stock suspension bushes and ball-joints last 15-20k miles but upgraded items are available. With labour it's a 6-7k job but on fresh components it's easy to see why the 599 was an ECOTY.

    Engine mounts and drive shafts get hard work-outs from all the power and the former should be changed every 25k in whilst the Drive shafts simply need separating from the gearbox and re-assembling with the correct jointing compound. The penalty for engine movement at the end of engine mount life is occasional inlet leaks which throw up CEL's and require new clamps for the throttle body connection. Parking sensors are very vulnerable to stone strikes as they are very low to the road surface and many cars have had them 'repaired' on the cheap. These plus TPMS errors also seem to send the electrics into a confused state - battery life on the tyre sensors is circa 8-9years and pattern ones will program temporarily but then drop out every few journeys leading to ongoing issues.

    Many 599's get put up for sale when some of these bills present and it's easy to present a car with a FSH and no visible issues that may well need 10-20k spending in a very short time. Proper inspection is required by a tipo specialist AND invoices to go with ownership. Running a V12 is a big undertaking but also massively rewarding. Of all my automotive experiences the 599 is the pinnacle even within some supposedly better cars.
    Wow thanks for the very indepth description. So for running costs even if it is a sunny weekend car (not very often in UK) I need to be looking at 5-10K per year? That dwarfs my Maserati at approx. 2.5K per year.
    I might have to re-think!

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