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    Default Anyone know this 430 Scud ?

    https://www.pistonheads.com/classifi...uk-rhd/7912489

    Interested as its cheap due to mileage, which doesn't bother me on a normal car but this is a Scuderia which intrigues me, who would put that many miles on it? what type of use has it had? daily track slag? rental car?

    What do we all think? easy to say, spend more and get a low miles one but thats another 50k in some cases!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvb247 View Post
    Interested as its cheap due to mileage, which doesn't bother me on a normal car but this is a Scuderia which intrigues me, who would put that many miles on it? what type of use has it had? daily track slag? rental car?
    I'm pretty sure this car was Ferrari Northern Europe's press demonstrator.

    See here https://youtu.be/tYDY-1RAFrk
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    Default Anyone know this 430 Scud ?

    The one the CH vid is a left hooker.

    Have you posted in the V8 section of PH? There are more Scud owners on there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dvb247 View Post
    https://www.pistonheads.com/classifi...uk-rhd/7912489

    Interested as its cheap due to mileage, which doesn't bother me on a normal car but this is a Scuderia which intrigues me, who would put that many miles on it? what type of use has it had? daily track slag? rental car?

    What do we all think? easy to say, spend more and get a low miles one but thats another 50k in some cases!!
    Who cares what kind of use it has had? That it has been used is a good sign to me. In context it has done less than 4K per year. That's one Decent European tour per year.

    A scud that has never been on track?

    That would be plain weird

    Who would put that many miles on?

    What about someone who has just had the best nine driving years of their life?

    At that mileage it will likely be on a relatively new set of brake discs Clutch will have been done
    Ball joints and rod ends could well be on second set and due a third. Are the tyres new and fresh?

    Based on 430 component life this could be a lot better financial proposition than say a 17k mile car that soon needs a load of work or a 'collector mileage car' that costs loads more and will inevitably have issues if you start to use it.

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    I recommend a test drive. I know you really dislike aftermarket manifolds on an F430; the Scud also has catlesss manifolds, but in addition different cats and a more direct exhaust route at the rear. In standard form they are louder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike01606 View Post
    The one the CH vid is a left hooker.
    True enough but I do recall an Avio Blue 430 Scuderia with carbon everything that was a showcase for Ferrari options. And the advert for this one states "First registered to Ferrari UK".

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    Quote Originally Posted by slapshot View Post
    True enough but I do recall an Avio Blue 430 Scuderia with carbon everything that was a showcase for Ferrari options. And the advert for this one states "First registered to Ferrari UK".
    That is correct. Been for sale on numerous occasions over its lifetime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Modificato View Post
    Who cares what kind of use it has had? That it has been used is a good sign to me. In context it has done less than 4K per year. That's one Decent European tour per year.
    WELL I CARE AS I WOULD WITH ALL MY CAR PURCHASES, BE SILLY NOT TO CARE REALLY?

    A scud that has never been on track?

    That would be plain weird
    I DIDN’T SAY “NEVER BEEN ON TRACK” I SAID TRACK SLAG AND THEREFORE A KNACKERED HAMMERED ABUSED DAILY SCUD WHICH WOUKD 100% PUT ME OFF REGARDLESS OF HOW MANY PARTS HAVE BEEN REPLACED.

    Who would put that many miles on?

    What about someone who has just had the best nine driving years of their life?
    PRECISELY? 100% AGREE, BUT STILL, WHO WOULD PUT THAT MANY MILES ON A SCUD? I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ITS HISTORY?

    At that mileage it will likely be on a relatively new set of brake discs Clutch will have been done
    Ball joints and rod ends could well be on second set and due a third. Are the tyres new and fresh?
    COULD ALSO HAVE BEEN SERVICED BY A LOCAL HAIRY ARSED GREASE MONKEY MOT STATION AND DRIVEN BY SOMEONE WHO HAS NO MECHANICAL UNDERSTANDING AND DOESNT NOTICE ANY KNOCKING, RATTLES, WURING, SQUEAKING NOISES SO NOT REPLACED A SINGLE THING. I KNOW A FEW FRIENDS OF MINE LIKE THAT WITH HIGH END CARS, DRIVE EM, BIN EM AFTER A FEW YEARS ON A PART EX.


    Based on 430 component life this could be a lot better financial proposition than say a 17k mile car that soon needs a load of work or a 'collector mileage car' that costs loads more and will inevitably have issues if you start to use it.
    THATS TRUE, STRATSTONE HAD A LHD WITH SIMILAR MILES AND THEY SAID THEY REPLACED EVERYTHING TO PUT IT BACK ON SALE!!




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    Quote Originally Posted by dvb247 View Post
    Interested as its cheap due to mileage, which doesn't bother me on a normal car but this is a Scuderia which intrigues me, who would put that many miles on it?
    I took a look at the advert thinking it was going to be high mileage!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvb247 View Post
    THATS TRUE, STRATSTONE HAD A LHD WITH SIMILAR MILES AND THEY SAID THEY REPLACED EVERYTHING TO PUT IT BACK ON SALE!!

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    Simple - get an inspection by a marque specialist and buy on condition not mileage.

    I was looking at a 430 spider last week that had so obviously been clocked I wouldn’t have touched it with a barge pole yet it was low mileage, never been tracked and FFSH.

    Get an inspection and buy on condition - and by that I mean also fully aware of up-coming-expense and soon-to-be condition not whether it has just been serviced and passed an MOT. I would only take it to a franchise dealer for the inspection so I can 100% have the SD3, the traffic light conditions report which owners should keep really to prove when things needed doing.

    Amber condition warnings always mean forthcoming expense and maybe lots of it. A 20k miler with amber on suspension and brakes could easily mean >£20k of expense in the first year of ownership....

    My 430 was bought as an approved car and after 6k miles in the first year needed lots of work. Exhaust manifolds, brackets, rod ends, pads, front ball joints, rear light repairs, etc.

    A 40k car ( having just had all that work done) could well be run to 60k miles with just simple servicing expenses.

    Ultra low mileage cars as mine was when I bought it could well need work too.

    Secondhand Ferrari’s are notorious for deferred maintenance issues often as a motivation for the sale itself so could Ben either way.

    I Know the car at Stratstone you are referring to.

    They lost money on it allegedly - but probably not the newer car they sold to the ex-owner?
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