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    Quote Originally Posted by sssdu01 View Post
    I would suggest test driving a few different models before you commit. Its often said "dont meet your heros" and I have found the same with cars, driving your dream car can shatter the dream. Whilst driving a Testerossa was "fun" I was so pleased to be driving my 430 home. Not sure what sort of money you are thinking of spending but you will probably have lots of different and/or "newer" models in scope. Also it might be easier to sell on a 308/328 rather than a Testerossa when you want to change etc.

    On the Testerossa fuse boxes can be an issue, as they are a poor design and badly made. This can give all manner of problems - a potential electrical fire ANYWHERE in the car - and difficult to find electrical faults as you go chasing a particular circuit on the wiring diagrams then discover the fault has been caused by random fuse box shorting out on a different circuit (with a higher current rating so the fuse keeps blowing or the loom catches fire !!. As an example a friends TR had an electrical problem with the window switches that set fire to the loom ). You cant see all the circuit board in the standard fuse box so making it even more difficult to track faults. There are several companies that do upgraded fuse boxes......... there is a reason for this !!

    There were also some problems with clutch slave cylinders (About 3 years ago ??) as no seals were available from the factory and some company made some replacements which also leaked. I would want to do some research on this before committing to buy as its something that will need doing at some time soon. (The seal was used on some other models, and at one stage Lovetts had a few cars in bits waiting for someone the produce a seal that worked)

    I have also seen oil leaks from the rocker box covers, along with very poor repairs involving industrial quantities of silicone goo. MY friends TR leaked oil like the Exon Valdez

    Finally how big is your garage ??? TR these are huge Brave choice for a first Ferrari !!
    Hi, thanks for all the info, Iíve took a 308 out recently, great car just a little too ... ummm hard to put my finger on it, bit of a posh go-kart if that makes sense... I was / am looking for more of a GT feel... older the better but with the 512BB being out of reach and the Testarossa always being a favourite I figured itís time to commit... clutch slave issues will be part of my conversation on inspection along with diff and a few other potential issues that have been bought to my attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jampye View Post
    Good advice, they are going to lift it for me to inspect the underneath and supply me with a full inspection report.
    Just as a general point for other readers and not specifically about your purchase (I happen to know Geoff and the guys at Shiltech well), thatís very different from getting an independant ppi. Unless you have a long relationship with the dealer Iíd always go the ppi route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nosevi View Post
    PPI wise you wonít need to ship - pretty much all the indies that do them travel to the car. No dealer should ever mind an independant ppi being undertaken and Iíd always have one done.

    +1 on Tim from Walkersport. If I needed a ppi done heís the guy Iíd use.
    Just emailed Tim, thanks for the advice....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jampye View Post
    Hi, thanks for all the info, Iíve took a 308 out recently, great car just a little too ... ummm hard to put my finger on it, bit of a posh go-kart if that makes sense... I was / am looking for more of a GT feel... older the better but with the 512BB being out of reach and the Testarossa always being a favourite I figured itís time to commit... clutch slave issues will be part of my conversation on inspection along with diff and a few other potential issues that have been bought to my attention.
    Be careful on the low miles vs. High miles.

    Take this as itís meant (all who read). Many - not all - Ferrariís are owned by people literally living a dream. For many itís the peak and reward of their life often for many years of hard work. Alternatively it could be the bedroom poster effect car that they have always promised themselves and now deserve. Having said all that NO Ferrari is a low cost thing either to buy or maintain. Cars of the era you are considering are a long long way from modern cars no matter what the mileageís. Some are low miles because their owners have huge wealth and a large collection of cars mean they are all low mileage. In my two decades of Ferrari owning experience the majority are not. The are ornaments that get an occasional outing then tucked up in bed again slowly degrading through lack of use underneath but polished to within an inch of their lives above the skin. Classic is an immaculate car running on 20year old tyres! Cars of this era cost a lot to run as being thinly disguised race car components they were not engineered for 100,000 miles plus. Their performance meant that many components were literally on the edge of what was possible to supply with a 12month warranty. A complete history file is therefore invaluable to see on a few cars even if you donít buy them because - as you are saying itís a keeper - you will be able to see what itís costing to own and run. The charitable way of describing the norm with these cars is that the are Ďrolling restorationí type cars were items wear with use and are replaced as time and funds allow. I run a modern V12 and it has never cost less than £10k a year in parts and servicing but I drive it 3,000 plus per year and as designed for. It is therefore possible that the higher mileage car is in much better condition than the low mileage car. I have been down both routes before and know how tempting it is to not buy-on-condition but trust me for long term enjoyment this IS the mantra you should stick by. As was suggested a couple of grand invested in the purchase process is nothing and could be wiped out in the first service.

    Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Modificato View Post
    Be careful on the low miles vs. High miles.

    Take this as itís meant (all who read). Many - not all - Ferrariís are owned by people literally living a dream. For many itís the peak and reward of their life often for many years of hard work. Alternatively it could be the bedroom poster effect car that they have always promised themselves and now deserve. Having said all that NO Ferrari is a low cost thing either to buy or maintain. Cars of the era you are considering are a long long way from modern cars no matter what the mileageís. Some are low miles because their owners have huge wealth and a large collection of cars mean they are all low mileage. In my two decades of Ferrari owning experience the majority are not. The are ornaments that get an occasional outing then tucked up in bed again slowly degrading through lack of use underneath but polished to within an inch of their lives above the skin. Classic is an immaculate car running on 20year old tyres! Cars of this era cost a lot to run as being thinly disguised race car components they were not engineered for 100,000 miles plus. Their performance meant that many components were literally on the edge of what was possible to supply with a 12month warranty. A complete history file is therefore invaluable to see on a few cars even if you donít buy them because - as you are saying itís a keeper - you will be able to see what itís costing to own and run. The charitable way of describing the norm with these cars is that the are Ďrolling restorationí type cars were items wear with use and are replaced as time and funds allow. I run a modern V12 and it has never cost less than £10k a year in parts and servicing but I drive it 3,000 plus per year and as designed for. It is therefore possible that the higher mileage car is in much better condition than the low mileage car. I have been down both routes before and know how tempting it is to not buy-on-condition but trust me for long term enjoyment this IS the mantra you should stick by. As was suggested a couple of grand invested in the purchase process is nothing and could be wiped out in the first service.

    Good luck
    Thanks, your obviously speaking from a few years experience.... the concern with the 50k + miler was in 10 years I would expect it to be pushing 80 / 90 k and thatís adding up...

    hopefully the ppi will be a positive report, I need to figure out the obvious gap in service history but this is the history Iíve been advised of so far... all good / reputable service agents so fingers crossed it will all be good...

    Annual service carried out by Maranello Ferrari on 15/08/1988 at 2,172 Miles
    12,000 Mile service carried out by Maranello Ferrari on 15/08/1989 at 3,369 Miles including belts
    New clutch fitted by Nick Cartwright Ferrari on 08/01/1991 at 5,359 Miles
    Gemini Alarm fitted by Graypaul Ferrari Loughborough on 16/04/1991 at 5,742 Miles
    3,000 Mile Service carried out by Graypaul Ferrari Loughborough on 31/01/1994 at 7,260 Miles including belts and underseal
    Annual service carried out by Nick Cartwright Ferrari on 07/06/2004 at 9,557 Miles including belts
    Major service carried out by Shiltech Ferrari on 13/07/2010 at 10,407 Miles including belts
    Oil service carried out by Shiltech Ferrari on 05/09/2013 at 10,694 Miles
    Oil service carried out by Shiltech Ferrari on 30/07/2015 at 11,322 Miles
    Major service carried out by Shiltech Ferrari on 21/04/2017 Miles including belts
    Just four owners from new, current keeper since December 1990!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jampye View Post
    I was / am looking for more of a GT feel... older the better but with the 512BB being out of reach and the Testarossa always being a favourite I figured itís time to commit...
    Go for it....I was in the same boat and could still be looking if I listened to all the negatives about these cars, however as long as you understand and except these are old cars and expensive to run, you'll love it.

    Ive just taken mine out this morning, and there is no better feeling than being in such an iconic and gorgeous looking car. Give me this over my newer ones any day!

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    Been out in my 348 this morning and loved it! Just a big go kart!! (I donít care itís not as fast as a welsh diesel mini!!!).

    But as said this age of car, like anything else, best thought of as a ďrollingĒ restoration. My boat is the same and once you get your head into that space the enjoyment certainly goes up.

    As well as the model specific points, donít forget the ďusualĒ stuff. On that age Iíd want all perishables replaced, or budgeted to be replaced. Coolant hoses, brake lines, fuel lines etc. But a good ppi will bring all this out!

    Still remember the first time I saw a testarossa, awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jampye View Post
    Just four owners from new, current keeper since December 1990!
    Unless the PPI picks up a time bomb dead wallet issue , then I would be sort of happy buying a car thats had the same owners since 1990. I am always wary about buying any car thats had loads of owners as that would suggest a car thats ***** to drive, or has just been re bodged to sell onto the next victim.

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    Thanks guys, all the warnings about potential issues and the positives about owning such an iconic car, canít wait till Tuesday... hopefully photos of my new car to follow soon...

    Iíll keep you posted...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jampye View Post
    Thanks, your obviously speaking from a few years experience.... the concern with the 50k + miler was in 10 years I would expect it to be pushing 80 / 90 k and thatís adding up...

    hopefully the ppi will be a positive report, I need to figure out the obvious gap in service history but this is the history Iíve been advised of so far... all good / reputable service agents so fingers crossed it will all be good...

    Annual service carried out by Maranello Ferrari on 15/08/1988 at 2,172 Miles
    12,000 Mile service carried out by Maranello Ferrari on 15/08/1989 at 3,369 Miles including belts
    New clutch fitted by Nick Cartwright Ferrari on 08/01/1991 at 5,359 Miles
    Gemini Alarm fitted by Graypaul Ferrari Loughborough on 16/04/1991 at 5,742 Miles
    3,000 Mile Service carried out by Graypaul Ferrari Loughborough on 31/01/1994 at 7,260 Miles including belts and underseal
    Annual service carried out by Nick Cartwright Ferrari on 07/06/2004 at 9,557 Miles including belts
    Major service carried out by Shiltech Ferrari on 13/07/2010 at 10,407 Miles including belts
    Oil service carried out by Shiltech Ferrari on 05/09/2013 at 10,694 Miles
    Oil service carried out by Shiltech Ferrari on 30/07/2015 at 11,322 Miles
    Major service carried out by Shiltech Ferrari on 21/04/2017 Miles including belts
    Just four owners from new, current keeper since December 1990!
    That reads very much like edited highlights...

    Iíd want to know discs, pads, suspension, bushes etc.

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