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    Default 348 Sports Cats or Decat Pipes '91 Car

    As above, my RH Cat is knocking away and looking for options.

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    Allan,

    I believe that before summer 92 you don't have to have CATs for emissions on the MOT....so why have them?

    I'd go decat pipes! Freer flowing exhaust, don't have to worry about those annoying thermocouple and exhaust ECUs....and a lot cheaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A348W View Post
    Allan,

    I believe that before summer 92 you don't have to have CATs for emissions on the MOT....so why have them?

    I'd go decat pipes! Freer flowing exhaust, don't have to worry about those annoying thermocouple and exhaust ECUs....and a lot cheaper.
    Not strictly speaking true. If the car originally came with cats removing them is an illegal modification which can invalidate your insurance. Driving without insurance is an Ďabsolute crimeí under UK law (there is no defence in law) so even if you were told it was fine by a broker who should know better, this is no defence and you can still be banned for driving without valid insurance.

    I learned all about this the hard way which almost ended in tears - mine.

    Go sports or race cats. Donít decat. Itís simply not worth it.

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    Nos,

    Interesting. I knew putting a none road worthy pipe on invalidates ones insurance (friend on a bike found out the hard way on that many years ago), but I wasn't really aware that removing them on a car that did not require them would have the same effect, potentially.

    (Every day is a school day, as they say.)

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    Any recommendations for Sports Cats? If I go this route?

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    I went Nouvalari and they transformed the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quigs View Post
    I went Nouvalari and they transformed the car.
    Thanks, message sent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A348W View Post
    Nos,

    Interesting. I knew putting a none road worthy pipe on invalidates ones insurance (friend on a bike found out the hard way on that many years ago), but I wasn't really aware that removing them on a car that did not require them would have the same effect, potentially.

    (Every day is a school day, as they say.)
    The law changed a couple of years a go - if the car originally had cats removing them is an illegal modification regardless of the age of the car. Swapping them for sports cats is fine though as long as you tell your insurance company.

    My terminology was incorrect above - driving uninsured is an 'absolute offence' rather than an absolute crime. It means, as I say, there is no defence in law and even if you've been told you're insured and fine you are still guilty if your car is found to have an illegal modification which can invalidate your insurance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quigs View Post
    I went Nouvalari and they transformed the car.
    Me too. And yes, it made a huge difference.

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    As we are on the subject of modified exhausts.......

    Large or Big Bore Exhausts........Quote...

    You might have heard that big bore exhausts can pass an MOT but that's a misleading and irrelevant fact. An MOT only tests for exhaust gasses and compliance with emission legislation. The important thing to note is that most big bore exhausts are illegal for use on public roads in the UK.

    The increased noise emitted by big bore and sports exhaust systems contravenes most vehicles' Type Approval, so you'll be committing an offence to drive a vehicle on a public road if it's fitted with one.

    Whats your views on this? Do some or all of the manufacturers of these systems guarantee legality? Not in my experience.

    What is your insurers position on these systems if you have one fitted ?

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    Hi Nick - I declared X-Ost exhaust and Nouvalari cats on my insurance and it made no difference. Its actually stated on my policy also.

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