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    Default Getting an inspection done in an area where 2 dealers may be in cahoot together...

    Maybe I am just being unfairly cynical here...

    But I live in an area of the country where Ferraristi are few and far between, and so are reputable independent servicers and sellers. In London and the South East there are a great many to choose from and this forces fairness on pricing as well as honesty and frankness when it comes to truth.

    Recently ago, a fairly priced 456 came up for sale at a certain dealer's and I nearly bought it. It had FFSH, 11months left on the MOT although was perhaps a little high mileage at 50k - but it didn't have any obvious problems to me and the dealer concerned swore blind that it was a sound car. I (ever the cautious) ordered a full inspection to be carried out at a cost of £500 from the other local reputable independent Ferrari guy in the area, who has been recommended on this forum as being an 'honest john' type whom you could trust with you life. And to my great surprise - he came back with the results of the inspection full of dread - the car apparently had numerous faults and poor maintenance issues which I seemingly hadn't picked-up on, it had failed its emission test, wouldn't even get an MOT if it were carried out today, etc, etc. He recommended swiping a full £10k off the £30k asking price in order to take account of the issues.

    I went back to the seller, and told him the news, and made him my offer of £20k (certain that it would be refused anyway), and it was. "That guy is just jealous because he wanted to sell this car and I've got it," I was told, "he's just telling you it's a donkey so that you'll go and buy one of his instead," etc etc…

    Well - I was a loss. And didn't know what to do... But about 3 weeks later the car sold! I was told quite frankly by the selling garage that it went for a little over £27k to a chap who had arranged a private inspection with somebody who had been flown up from London - and they were told that the results of that inspection had come back very favourably.

    The car was sold by the selling garage with a 3 month limited warranty and according to the them, they haven't seen it since - which is a good sign.

    This raised the question to me of 'what is the point' in getting an inspection done in an area where there are two major competing Ferrari specialists; if all they are going to do is slag one and other off to the client, and just use the opportunity of doing an inspection to force their spin on their rivals cars to profit their own ends! It's very unfair conduct - a proper inspection costs at least £500, and the client should be given a fair an unbiased report. I know if I engaged in this sort of malpractice as a chartered surveyor I would rightfully be struck-off!

    What are your thoughts? It also strikes me that 2 garages could also act in cahoot to sell a dodgy car - one covering-up for the other, although this is probably less likely than what I experienced.

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    Always get an inspection by someone out of area - generally they all travel ! (well, all the decent ones)
    I would have been interested in a list of faults which added up to £10k - that buys you a shed load of making good....
    Buy mine if you are still looking - its in the for sale section

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    Would be interested to hear what your £500 inspection consisted of.....was a compression test and leak down test carried out.....

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    As I know the two that you are talking about I fail to see or understand why they would be in cahoot's I have never heard any of the two of them talk bad about the other and never had any bad dealings with either of them.

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    well, you have the inspection report, so chalk it up to experience, and use the report to compare against other models you look at in the future sort of like a check list.
    It will at least give you a better feel for any cars in the future.
    I don't know the dealers, but wouldn't suprise me if they did bad mouth one another.

    re: the chartered surveyor statement, I know this happens too (seemingly 'independent' surveyors in the pockets of developers), as it's a very pertinent subject to me at the moment!

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    Quote Originally Posted by matkat View Post
    As I know the two that you are talking about I fail to see or understand why they would be in cahoot's I have never heard any of the two of them talk bad about the other and never had any bad dealings with either of them.
    Are you sure you know the two I'm talking about? I never said they were in my local area... and although I'm not going to say who they are, these two weren't in Scotland.

    Quote Originally Posted by matkat View Post
    Would be interested to hear what your £500 inspection consisted of.....was a compression test and leak down test carried out.....
    The Inspection did include a compression test, I'm not sure about a proper oil leak test but they did do a visual examination and noted oil in the engine bay along with a whole load of other stuff. It was quite an extensive report... Very strange.

    Hasn't put me off though - I'll still order inspections. Just be a bit more careful who I choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefreelancetrader View Post
    Are you sure you know the two I'm talking about? I never said they were in my local area... and although I'm not going to say who they are, these two weren't in Scotland.



    The Inspection did include a compression test, I'm not sure about a proper oil leak test but they did do a visual examination and noted oil in the engine bay along with a whole load of other stuff. It was quite an extensive report... Very strange.

    Hasn't put me off though - I'll still order inspections. Just be a bit more careful who I choose.
    James my apologies for assuming. I thought they were Carlo & Martin Tracy.

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