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    Question Mondial t and selecting 5th gear

    Ok Chaps, new to Ferrari ownership and with only 200 miles experience under my belt this might be a silly questiuon but one i want to ask none the less.

    I find getting 5th a real struggle, even when fully warm and after 1 or so hours driving. The others gears are sweet enought, helps by blipping going down and being firm going up, but 5th is very stiff/notchy and with lots of ressistance to change.....much like 2nd when cold as a good description. It is helped by matching engine and road speeds/revs, but still an issue. Any guidence or is this part of the character?

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    Hello,

    The T has a cable shift system, much like the 348, due to the engine having to pop out for its cam belt service these cables can get get slighly out of position for clear shifts, thats the most likely reason....lets hope its not the other one. Where are you based so that I can recomend a service centre that will just fix / investigate the problem without the scratching of their chin and a big gasps of breath?

    T.

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    Just checked Oundle..(sorry never heard of it) I would suggest either Gary from GT Auto (Brownhills) or Migliore cars of Bromsgrove, both are main dealer trained and honest guys.

    T.

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    Thanks Tim, I suspect you are right as all the other gears and shifts are fine and no odd noises/crunches can be felt, to me rueling out mechanical issues. the engine was out not so long ago for belts which does also tie in.

    The suppling dealier is aware and to be fair will address the issue, but always very encouraging to see one specialist recomend another....thanks.

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    Just a quick suggestion that is going to sound a bit barking mad. My 348 used to be the same snag with 5th as well as the problem going into 2nd when cold. There's a bit of a trick with the 348 box that seems to sort out the gears for some reason. It's taken from here http://www.my348.com/ and I've done it religiously since getting my car and the box has gone from really quite notchy to completely smooth even when cold. Going into second even when totally cold is now no issue, just 'snicks' straight in as does 5th. On the site above it's described as this:

    348 Shifting Trick: instead of simply shifting into Reverse, shift into 1st gear and while still holding down the clutch shift into Reverse (do this only when stationary!). This resets the transmission and aids shifting for the rest of your drive (smoother, faster, etc.). Think of this process as a single motion: depress clutch, shift to 1st, continue holding clutch down, shift to Reverse, now release clutch.

    Has to be one smooth move into first then into reverse and I do it pretty much everytime I drive my car. The difference now is huge. Also seems to be progressively better the more often you do it. Give it a go the next couple of times you drive and see if it makes a difference. Would be interested to know if it works for you too.

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    Never worked for me Pete,I've tried for 2 years,I think its a bit of a myth mate!
    Either that or your g/box is wearing out fast

    Quote Originally Posted by Nosevi View Post
    Just a quick suggestion that is going to sound a bit barking mad. My 348 used to be the same snag with 5th as well as the problem going into 2nd when cold. There's a bit of a trick with the 348 box that seems to sort out the gears for some reason. It's taken from here http://www.my348.com/ and I've done it religiously since getting my car and the box has gone from really quite notchy to completely smooth even when cold. Going into second even when totally cold is now no issue, just 'snicks' straight in as does 5th. On the site above it's described as this:

    348 Shifting Trick: instead of simply shifting into Reverse, shift into 1st gear and while still holding down the clutch shift into Reverse (do this only when stationary!). This resets the transmission and aids shifting for the rest of your drive (smoother, faster, etc.). Think of this process as a single motion: depress clutch, shift to 1st, continue holding clutch down, shift to Reverse, now release clutch.

    Has to be one smooth move into first then into reverse and I do it pretty much everytime I drive my car. The difference now is huge. Also seems to be progressively better the more often you do it. Give it a go the next couple of times you drive and see if it makes a difference. Would be interested to know if it works for you too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob308 View Post
    Never worked for me Pete,I've tried for 2 years,I think its a bit of a myth mate!
    Either that or your g/box is wearing out fast
    Probably the latter knowing my luck! All joking aside my gear box was really notchy/difficult is now silky smooth, been doing it everytime I drive for 5 months or so. Before couldn't touch 2nd when cold, now smooth and straight in seconds after start. The difference is worlds apart. When you do it do you literally do one motion. Sort of clutch down, stick left, then downup - one fast, smooth move. Can't see why it has clearly worked for me, not for you. Others have told me what a difference it's made when I've passed it on to them. Maybe works for some not for others but no idea why. Maybe it's all in the wrist, mate....

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    Red face

    Been trying the "trick" and perhaps the jury is still out on that one.

    One other bit of counter intuitive advice was to keep a few revs on when changing 4th to 5th, almost like blipping while going down, but only now up the box. This works, even if the head and m
    Foot coordination is against 20+ years education.

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    Quote Originally Posted by My First ferrari View Post
    Been trying the "trick" and perhaps the jury is still out on that one.

    One other bit of counter intuitive advice was to keep a few revs on when changing 4th to 5th, almost like blipping while going down, but only now up the box. This works, even if the head and m
    Foot coordination is against 20+ years education.
    Thought this was pretty standard now and if it's done electronically is sometimes called flat shifting. A modern traction control system will do this automatically on shifting in both directions to speed up gear changes. Where's the fun in that though?

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    I would take careful note from thread number 2.....


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