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    Default maserati SD3?

    Dont have a Ferrari dealer near me any longer but I do have a Maserati one. Given that the cars are made by the same outfit and use versions of the same engine, does the Maser equivalent of the SD3 work on a Ferrari and vice versa?

    Nipping into Cardiff if I have an issue beats driving to Swindon or Birmingham
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    I'd say so.....

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    It depends on the software loaded. However isn't Cardiff Maserati new? They may only have the Maserati Diagnosi which covers all the latest models (and all the old ones) - this is an online system and separate system to Ferrari (ie: no cross coverage).

    The amount of software on any given SD3 is variable. Some are Ferrari only, some Maserati only and some both. Some have coverage on the latest models, some don't. Some have SD2 emulation (for older models), some don't. There are also two types of SD3 - dealer level and client with the former providing a few more options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voicey View Post
    It depends on the software loaded. However isn't Cardiff Maserati new? They may only have the Maserati Diagnosi which covers all the latest models (and all the old ones) - this is an online system and separate system to Ferrari (ie: no cross coverage).

    The amount of software on any given SD3 is variable. Some are Ferrari only, some Maserati only and some both. Some have coverage on the latest models, some don't. Some have SD2 emulation (for older models), some don't. There are also two types of SD3 - dealer level and client with the former providing a few more options.
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    The SD3 unit is identical no matter which car it is configured too. All it is is a platform to operate software files. "SD3 systema" is the disc used to configure the unit. You can configure any unit to either make, or both...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustybits View Post
    The SD3 unit is identical no matter which car it is configured too. All it is is a platform to operate software files. "SD3 systema" is the disc used to configure the unit. You can configure any unit to either make, or both...
    Some more info.

    In the UK Ferrari are seeking to seperate their product from all others even within the Fiat Group so my local Ferrari dealer will no longer service Maserati and their SD3 has already been neutered to suit as part of their entire showroom and workshop 'upgrade'. My limited series 8C is now about to become an 'orphan' from SD3 as there are only two dealerships in the UK that have the software and tooling and one of them is a Ferrari dealership committed to a similar ethnic cleansing by Ferrari.

    Should have bought the recent unit on eBay

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    Most official dealers are using the SDx by now. That unit is linked directly to the Red and Blue online portals. That means the factory can remotely access the units and add/remove any software they like. SD3 files are downloaded via the same network in the dealers, but the software then stays on the unit and cannot be randomly remote accessed. To remove any software files you just delete them manually on the unit (standalone mode) or attatched to the base software (SD3 NET). So you only need the software files and find a friendly specialist with an SD3 to fix your Alfa! ;) the SD3's generally used by specialists are know as "SD3 Privato" though some units are dealer spec. Either type would accept the files. I believe the Alfa uses the same Florence Architecture as the Maserati's and later Ferrari's, therefore the standard Switch-Matrix cable would access all the Nodes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustybits View Post
    Most official dealers are using the SDx by now. That unit is linked directly to the Red and Blue online portals. That means the factory can remotely access the units and add/remove any software they like. SD3 files are downloaded via the same network in the dealers, but the software then stays on the unit and cannot be randomly remote accessed. To remove any software files you just delete them manually on the unit (standalone mode) or attatched to the base software (SD3 NET). So you only need the software files and find a friendly specialist with an SD3 to fix your Alfa! ;) the SD3's generally used by specialists are know as "SD3 Privato" though some units are dealer spec. Either type would accept the files. I believe the Alfa uses the same Florence Architecture as the Maserati's and later Ferrari's, therefore the standard Switch-Matrix cable would access all the Nodes...
    Agree but there is also a set of servicing tooling that dealers had to buy as well. The value of the car is ridiculously tied to the servicing at approved, tooled up dealers, so it's a soon to be problem unless people like graypaul Nottingham pass their tooling on to another franchise. Talking to my local Maserati in the UK it's not even on their radar. Ironically in Italy where no separation of Ferrari is planned my 'local' dealer is tooled up and happy to keep his software current for my car alone if I service it there so...looks like another UK car will leave our shores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Modificato View Post
    Agree but there is also a set of servicing tooling that dealers had to buy as well. The value of the car is ridiculously tied to the servicing at approved, tooled up dealers, so it's a soon to be problem unless people like graypaul Nottingham pass their tooling on to another franchise. Talking to my local Maserati in the UK it's not even on their radar. Ironically in Italy where no separation of Ferrari is planned my 'local' dealer is tooled up and happy to keep his software current for my car alone if I service it there so...looks like another UK car will leave our shores.
    Its a shame, they really are backward thinking sometimes. The seven year free servicing plan is hurting main dealers too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustybits View Post
    Its a shame, they really are backward thinking sometimes. The seven year free servicing plan is hurting main dealers too...
    Is that because owners are just getting the service done rather than all those little extas that crop up at servicing time that you might as well get done. My point is if people buy assuming zero servicing costs they might be less willing to pay for other work at servicing time. Surely the factory pays the dealer for the actual service work?

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