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    Default 360 Manifold problems?

    This is idle curiosity.

    I'm well aware that one of the common issues affecting 430s is the manifolds cracking. There is a thread on PH started by somebody looking for a 360 - and another poster has said that one of the common issues with 360s is the manifolds.

    I questioned that, and said I thought it was only 430s that had that issue - and he's assured me I'm wrong, and that it's been discussed here, and on FChat in the past.

    Is it really the case that 360s have manifold issues too? I was completely unaware - I've never seen it mentioned in reference to 360s?

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    There are a few old threads with 360 manifold in the title - one of which asking if its a problem had no repljes.......

    Bebs had to do his at 65 & 80 k miles and comments that the US design is different and could be more prone to failure
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    That must be the discussion he was talking about

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    355 manifolds are a known issue. Poor quality tubing etc....a place near where I'm sat at the moment rebuilds them for a lot of the specialists/dealers.

    I think the 360were an improvement but can fail similar to 355 ones. The US versions have the pre-cat that can break down and get ingested.

    430 are a disaster waiting to happen.....

    Certainly not an issue to be concerned about.

    Transmission oil coolers seems to be quite an issue for the 360 fleet. It's interesting that the same one is used on the 355 and doesn't seem to be a problem. It must be more frequent coolant changes on the engine out services or something related to the transmission side.

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    Interesting, hadnít picked up on that on the 360s.

    I had toyed with the idea of a 430 but completely put off by the headers issue. Met one guy who paid the price and that would completely end ownership for me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by A348W View Post
    Interesting, hadnít picked up on that on the 360s.

    I had toyed with the idea of a 430 but completely put off by the headers issue. Met one guy who paid the price and that would completely end ownership for me!
    !!!! The thing is you are talking about ancient history - early cars had failures. Mk1 headers were almost all replaced under goodwill to the later headers...

    Many owners opted to also put aftermarket headers / exhausts on too which eliminates any chance of failure.

    It would be virtually impossible to find any F430 still on the road running that risk. Meanwhile the tipo addresses many of the weaknesses and running expenses of the 355 and 360 (not needing cam belts replacing being the big one). The problem with the internet is it is not a managed document source so you can read all sorts of stuff that is no longer relevant or is now out of date. I only know of one early car that lunches an engine due to ingesting Mk1 Header pre-cat material.

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    Don't forget we shouldn't speak of the 355 & 360 in the same way regarding belt changes. As you know with the 360 it's no biggie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyodo View Post
    Don't forget we shouldn't speak of the 355 & 360 in the same way regarding belt changes. As you know with the 360 it's no biggie
    It's no biggie with either of them, Mark. Picking a couple of fixed price service lists at random and looking at the cost of a major plus belts and there's not a lot in it between a 355 and 360 in terms of cost. You may find some with more difference in price but generally there isn't. There are other considerations with potential maintenance costs on a 355 but the fact the engine comes out for a major/belt change isn't one of them (and in line with what Mod said about 430 manifolds pretty much all cars have had these issues sorted by now).

    http://simonfurlonger.co.uk/workshop.php

    http://www.supercarclinic.co.uk/ferr...ter-northwest/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Modificato View Post
    !!!! The thing is you are talking about ancient history - early cars had failures. Mk1 headers were almost all replaced under goodwill to the later headers...

    Many owners opted to also put aftermarket headers / exhausts on too which eliminates any chance of failure.

    It would be virtually impossible to find any F430 still on the road running that risk. Meanwhile the tipo addresses many of the weaknesses and running expenses of the 355 and 360 (not needing cam belts replacing being the big one). The problem with the internet is it is not a managed document source so you can read all sorts of stuff that is no longer relevant or is now out of date. I only know of one early car that lunches an engine due to ingesting Mk1 Header pre-cat material.
    Interesting, thanks. I did look at a couple but was not reassured of the above by the dealers (main dealers) of this. That said, I'm sure your knowledge is greater than theirs and they would be hedging their bets on warranty etc etc.

    Fortunately or unfortunately that money is now long gone into some bricks and mortar; probably safer if duller

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nosevi View Post
    It's no biggie with either of them, Mark. Picking a couple of fixed price service lists at random and looking at the cost of a major plus belts and there's not a lot in it between a 355 and 360 in terms of cost. You may find some with more difference in price but generally there isn't. There are other considerations with potential maintenance costs on a 355 but the fact the engine comes out for a major/belt change isn't one of them (and in line with what Mod said about 430 manifolds pretty much all cars have had these issues sorted by now).

    http://simonfurlonger.co.uk/workshop.php

    http://www.supercarclinic.co.uk/ferr...ter-northwest/
    I noticed that. In fact partially why I had, had enough of my F355. The month I sold it I had my 360 belts done and the new owner of my F355 had his done. His appeared to be cheaper than mine
    That said my thoughts were that removing the engine disturbed things and it was always "Whilst it is out..."

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