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    2008 cars and beyond are the one you want.

    They use a later version of ECU which is upgradable to HGTE spec and can run on E10 fuel so future proof on that front. The later software really does make a difference to how the 599 runs and the early cars had some issues early on.

    This is the official press release as the HGTE package was available as an upgrade or partial upgrade.

    My car has the ECU / throttle mapping and shift times upgrade

    FERRARI 599 GTB FIORANO – HANDLING GTE PACKAGE NOW AVAILABLE AS A FERRARI GENUINE PARTS ACCESSORY PACKAGE. IMAGES AND VIDEO ALSO AVAILABLE

    The recently-launched Handling GTE option for the Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano is now also available as a Ferrari Genuine Accessories package for dealer fitment, with two options available according to the customer's specific requirements and age of vehicle.

    The options are:

    Model Year Ferrari Genuine Accessories available Fitted price (from) *

    Pre-2008: Handling, Exhaust and Aesthetic kits £17,213

    Post-2008: Handling, Performance, Exhaust and Aesthetic kits £19,703

    * Final price will depend on specific kits required and model year of car. All prices are excluding VAT.

    To demonstrate the enhancements offered by this exciting addition to the Ferrari Genuine Accessories range, the attached video and images of a 599 GTB Fiorano fitted with the HGTE package should convince existing owners to consider upgrading their cars to this new specification. The video and images are available free of copyright for editorial use only.

    The full specification of each kit is detailed below:

    1) Handling, includes:

    * Lower suspension (10mm)
    * New magnetorheologically controlled suspension calibration for the Manettino SPORT and RACE configurations
    * More rigid suspension springs (front + 17%, rear + 15%)
    * More rigid rear anti-roll bars (diameter increased to 25mm)
    * HGTE specific tyres with improved compound (8% more grip)
    * 3-piece modular rims with reduced weight (forged spokes) and special new design

    2) Performance (only available for post-2008 cars, from engine no. 122779), includes:

    * New exhausts silencers with two-tone finish tailpipes
    * Enhanced F1 gearshift actuation, with response times reduced to 85ms
    * New accelerator logic with modified mapping for improved throttle response

    N.B. The Performance kit cannot be installed on cars with manual gearboxes.

    3) Exhaust, includes:

    * New exhausts silencers with two-tone finish tailpipes

    The Exhaust kit is designed for:

    * vehicles that cannot receive the software updates listed in the Performance kit since the engine was produced before assembly number 122779 (pre-2008)
    * all cars with manual gearboxes
    * clients who are only interested in modifying the styling and sound of their own cars

    N.B. The Exhaust kit is included in the Performance kit, for cars post-2008.

    4) Aesthetic, includes:

    * New design front grille with a special chromatic treatment
    * Burnished finish to Prancing Horse symbols on the front grill and rear boot lid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Modificato View Post
    2008 cars and beyond are the one you want.

    They use a later version of ECU which is upgradable to HGTE spec and can run on E10 fuel so future proof on that front. The later software really does make a difference to how the 599 runs and the early cars had some issues early on.

    This is the official press release as the HGTE package was available as an upgrade or partial upgrade.

    My car has the ECU / throttle mapping and shift times upgrade

    FERRARI 599 GTB FIORANO – HANDLING GTE PACKAGE NOW AVAILABLE AS A FERRARI GENUINE PARTS ACCESSORY PACKAGE. IMAGES AND VIDEO ALSO AVAILABLE

    The recently-launched Handling GTE option for the Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano is now also available as a Ferrari Genuine Accessories package for dealer fitment, with two options available according to the customer's specific requirements and age of vehicle.

    The options are:

    Model Year Ferrari Genuine Accessories available Fitted price (from) *

    Pre-2008: Handling, Exhaust and Aesthetic kits £17,213

    Post-2008: Handling, Performance, Exhaust and Aesthetic kits £19,703

    * Final price will depend on specific kits required and model year of car. All prices are excluding VAT.

    To demonstrate the enhancements offered by this exciting addition to the Ferrari Genuine Accessories range, the attached video and images of a 599 GTB Fiorano fitted with the HGTE package should convince existing owners to consider upgrading their cars to this new specification. The video and images are available free of copyright for editorial use only.

    The full specification of each kit is detailed below:

    1) Handling, includes:

    * Lower suspension (10mm)
    * New magnetorheologically controlled suspension calibration for the Manettino SPORT and RACE configurations
    * More rigid suspension springs (front + 17%, rear + 15%)
    * More rigid rear anti-roll bars (diameter increased to 25mm)
    * HGTE specific tyres with improved compound (8% more grip)
    * 3-piece modular rims with reduced weight (forged spokes) and special new design

    2) Performance (only available for post-2008 cars, from engine no. 122779), includes:

    * New exhausts silencers with two-tone finish tailpipes
    * Enhanced F1 gearshift actuation, with response times reduced to 85ms
    * New accelerator logic with modified mapping for improved throttle response

    N.B. The Performance kit cannot be installed on cars with manual gearboxes.

    3) Exhaust, includes:

    * New exhausts silencers with two-tone finish tailpipes

    The Exhaust kit is designed for:

    * vehicles that cannot receive the software updates listed in the Performance kit since the engine was produced before assembly number 122779 (pre-2008)
    * all cars with manual gearboxes
    * clients who are only interested in modifying the styling and sound of their own cars

    N.B. The Exhaust kit is included in the Performance kit, for cars post-2008.

    4) Aesthetic, includes:

    * New design front grille with a special chromatic treatment
    * Burnished finish to Prancing Horse symbols on the front grill and rear boot lid


    much appreciated

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    couple questions:

    is there a known reliable service in the UK who can:

    1. renovate leaking shocks from the 599
    2. renovate the CCM discs on a 599


    just wanting to get the costs of ownership straight in my mind

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    1. Not in UK as far as I know, but Nagengest in Poland for about £500 per shock, and Modenoracing in Holland also.
    2. There are sources for refinishing CCMs but, unless you are contemplating track use or have bought a car that has seen track use, you are unlikely to need renovation before 50k miles at least.

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    ok

    good to know about the brake discs

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    Quote Originally Posted by 575mhgtc View Post
    1. Not in UK as far as I know, but Nagengest in Poland for about £500 per shock, and Modenoracing in Holland also.
    2. There are sources for refinishing CCMs but, unless you are contemplating track use or have bought a car that has seen track use, you are unlikely to need renovation before 50k miles at least.
    My CCM’s were done at 28k miles - that’s how long the first gen CCM’s last and they wear just as much below their optimum heat zone as above it.

    Factory data shows 27-30k miles is the first gen CCM life in >90% of the cars in the dealership chain.

    The only company I had experience with for CCM refurbishment were a technical and commercial joke.

    Avoid is my advice.

    Just pay the money and get the discs when it needs them.

    Every CCM you see for sale used is below the weight limit.

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    My car has done precisely 28k miles and the disc wear is showing as only 37% - and that's from the rubbish algorithm that Ferrari use. On actual condition I doubt that they are even at 37%. Admitted the car has had a gentle life before I bought it, but not many are actually tracked or taken round the Mille Miglia.

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