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    Quote Originally Posted by Nosevi View Post
    Outrageous thing to suggest!!!

    Completely true though. The number of low mileage cars for sale with warn then poorly repaired seat bolters and worn peddles and foot rests is astonishing.
    I spoke to a mileage correction service out of interest the other day, they will remain nameless. They said they clock 15-20 488 / 458s a week. The used to do lots of 430s and 360s before that but not so much anymore.

    They said the Dealers / market dictates it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Blanchard View Post
    I spoke to a mileage correction service out of interest the other day, they will remain nameless. They said they clock 15-20 488 / 458s a week. The used to do lots of 430s and 360s before that but not so much anymore.

    They said the Dealers / market dictates it.
    And the market for heroin dictates that business model too, we shouldn't put up with it. In terms of mileage tampering it's fraud and the only 'correction' possible in this regard would be to accurately reinstate it. Name them, shame them, next time they could be doing that to a car one of us could be buying.

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    They said it's not illegal to clock a car, however they said it is illegal to sell the car without disclosing the actual mileage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Blanchard View Post
    They said it's not illegal to clock a car, however they said it is illegal to sell the car without disclosing the actual mileage.
    Sounds like a bit of a loophole in the law to me. Why would you want to clock a car for any reason other than to sell it as lower mileage than it is? As they say, the market dictates (or rather encourages) people do it which is sort of the gist of what I've been saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nosevi View Post
    Sounds like a bit of a loophole in the law to me. Why would you want to clock a car for any reason other than to sell it as lower mileage than it is? As they say, the market dictates (or rather encourages) people do it which is sort of the gist of what I've been saying.
    Standing by to be corrected, but I believe it is not illegal to change the mileage on your car (anyone, anyone? ), but it is illegal to sell a car that has had its mileage changed as this is misrepresentation; undoubtedly something in the sales of goods act or similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A348W View Post
    Standing by to be corrected, but I believe it is not illegal to change the mileage on your car...
    This I think, 100%. However, anyone clocking a car knows full well the only reason to do such a thing is to miss-sell that vehicle. Legalities aside, for a commercial outfit offering this service there is no defence.

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    I know clocking is a common thing with Ferrari’s as I see the same cars at FOC events all over the country, yet when you type in their number plates into the Gov mot check website these cars show very small annual mileage. So people skim the mileage before the service and mot to maintain their cars value.

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    In the years prior to online MOT checks many UK Ferraris had a haircut. I remember seeing several cars over a few years that had diminishing mileage, indeed a 355 previously owned on this forum turned up a few years later with half the miles! That was one of the more blatant examples and I think was even discussed here.

    One of the well known Ferrari specialists also quite openly offered disconnecting the speedo cable. The way they talked about it made it fairly obvious that it was a very regular everyday thing for them.

    It's pushing the bounds of credibility to expect a 20-30 year old car to still be on 30k miles. 360's are getting on for 20 years old now, 355's fast approaching 30.

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    Iain Tyrrell has a video on his you tube channel about the 456. He says they’re not loosened up to 50k. Worth a watch as he points out some of the weak point also.

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    Without defending an abhorrent practice, AFAIK the theory in adjusting mileage being legal is that you could buy a second-hand instrument cluster to replace your broken one which showed more miles than your car had done; hence adjusting it down.

    But it's clear that that is a very rare occurrence compared to actual clocking

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