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Manual 360 with sports seats

Have you checked the bucket seats make enough room? I have a manual 360 with factory CF sports seats. Irony is I was selling it last year but nobody wanted it because I was told it is a POS :laugh:

No I am not selling it now and I have decide that if I can find a way to own it after retirement I will. I have no idea what came over me to sell it. Must have banged my head on something and certainly not the 360's roof (I'm 5' 11" on a very hot day :tongue3:).

Keep looking because everyone apart from two were offering me **** money for it and even those two were only offering the minimum. Thank F*** I never sold it.

A recent picture as it has gone to be belted and other stuff. This is a keeper so if in the future anyone see's it up for sale it's because I'm dead.

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I remain frustrated! If anyone know of a car, please let me know. Manual with large sports seats, for sale and without a story. Like hens teeth!
 
I have an F1 Spider with carbon seats that I am selling.

Sold by Tim Walker and looked after by Aldous.

It has a Hamann kit which I will be removing and the car will be put back to standard in the next few weeks.
 
Angelis said:
I have an F1 Spider with carbon seats that I am selling.

Sold by Tim Walker and looked after by Aldous.

It has a Hamann kit which I will be removing and the car will be put back to standard in the next few weeks.
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Hi Angelis, I tried to PMyou about this but your mailbox is full / not accepting messages. Would you ping me a message about your car if you’re still selling it?
Thank you
 
Beda said:
Hi Angelis, I tried to PMyou about this but your mailbox is full / not accepting messages. Would you ping me a message about your car if you’re still selling it?
Thank you
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Hi.

I am no longer selling it.

Truth be told, it's too good for me to sell it now.
 
Angelis said:
Hi.

I am no longer selling it.

Truth be told, it's too good for me to sell it now.
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I feel the same. In fact although it will be my last Ferrari I realise that not having it would be a part of me missing. It's been such a long time owning a Ferrari I can't imagine living without it.
 
Beda said:
Hen’s teeth, I know! I am 6’6” and i know, after much trying, that the only way I fit in a 360 is with the large sports seats.

I have been looking for about a year now, hoping to find one, but so far I’ve come up with nothing.

Based in Hampshire but willing to travel, I’ve seen about 15 cars, 10 of which were non-sports seats just to get my eye in. With one exception (where I was too slow!), they have all had stories, from undisclosed engine swaps and damage, to heavy underside corrosion and limited service history. I have spent a lot of time bothering Tim Walker and Aldous Voice, and one thing that I’m sure of is that I don’t want to buy a project or story car, but one that’s got a great service history and is loved.

It’s pretty painful to have such a small potential pool of cars (I don’t know how many manuals with large sports seats remain, but I’m guessing there weren’t many to start with!). Not fussy about colour, albeit I love TDF blue.

Are any owners considering moving their cars on? If so let’s talk!

Thanks, Alex
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Small update to say it’s now about 20 cars viewed and one owned which turned out to have pretty big accident damage and was returned to the big name dealer who wouldn’t allow an inspection because “our word is our reputation”….

I am still looking for a manual 360 with large (or medium) sports seats. If you’re thinking about selling I am a genuine and keen buyer.
 
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Beda said:
Small update to say it’s now about 20 cars viewed and one owned which turned out to have pretty big accident damage and was returned to the big name dealer who wouldn’t allow an inspection because “our word is our reputation”….
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Shocking what some of the dealers try to get away with, I sometimes struggle to see why there's a premium when buying from them. I'd generally prefer to buy from an enthusiast who's looked after the car themselves and preferably owned if for a while. Cars that have been bounced from dealer to dealer seem far more likely to have skeletons in the closet regardless of 'service history'. Obviously there are some good honest dealers out there (I'd buy from Walkersport 'unseen' as an example) but they seem to be the exception rather than the rule.
 
Sorry to hear the hunt continues! Anybody that wont let you have a ppi is clearly hiding something.

Personally I wouldn’t trust anybody, regardless of reputation, things can be missed, nobody is perfect and you need to look after number one. Ive had one dealing with the above and wouldn't buy a used wheelbarrow from them!

keep searching, something will turn up :thumbsup:
 
Have to be realistic and accept these cars are 20+ years old now. The majority will have had some dramas in two decades. Those who have good unmolested ones will keep them, just last week my friend was chopping in his 360 F1 with a main dealer. The paltry p/x offer plus the same calculus that his is a good one also led him to the conclusion he should just keep it.
 
cgt said:
Have to be realistic and accept these cars are 20+ years old now. The majority will have had some dramas in two decades. Those who have good unmolested ones will keep them, just last week my friend was chopping in his 360 F1 with a main dealer. The paltry p/x offer plus the same calculus that his is a good one also led him to the conclusion he should just keep it.
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I think you’re hitting the nail on the head. I don’t think it’s unrealistic to want a car that has decent history, but it seems like so many have been badly treated and finding a good one (that won’t immediately cost £5k+ to get to spec is tough. The seats is another factor, as is manual. I have made it tough, but I really don’t think I’m being unreasonable.

The nutty thing is (to me!) I just missed out on a car at rardley (slow to act) which was perfect and had been part-exed into a main dealer. There are good cars out there but sellers (understandably) can’t be bothered to deal with private buyers.

Suspect it’ll be another two years of looking!
 
You also have to remember prices have fluctuated wildly in 20 years and for a certain period in the late '00's they dropped near to 30-35k and into the hands of people who couldn't afford to maintain them properly. Even today the px value my mate was offered wasn't massively north of that.

In the boom of 2017-21 many a turd was polished up and moved on for far more than the real worth.

Good ones are rare now and will rightly command a premium.
 
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cgt said:
You also have to remember prices have fluctuated wildly in 20 years and for a certain period in the late '00's they dropped near to 30-35k and into the hands of people who couldn't afford to maintain them properly. Even today the px value my mate was offered wasn't massively north of that.

In the boom of 2017-21 many a turd was polished up and moved on for far more than the real worth.

Good ones are rare now and will rightly command a premium.
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Yet another set of good points! I have learned (to my financial and time cost, and to the detriment of my wife’s patience with me) that people just delude themselves about the condition of their car. Again, not expecting miracles, but calling a car prime doesn’t make it so!

Many people have no idea what a good service history looks like, and are (understandably to some extent) completely unable to see e.g. the hole in the canvas roof, the mould in the frunk, the mould in the headlining etc.

I have nearly lost count of the Saturday mornings spent driving 1-4 hours to look at a car only to get there and immediately realise it was a wasted trip once you see the car up close.

Coupled to that, the variation in pricing is enormous, with next to no correlation between quality and price - people asking prime dealer money for a ratty car because they’ve seen another car up for sale at the same or a lower price.

This car, for example, looks lovely, but really top end pricing - https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202212052283525?postcode=sw109th&radius=1500&model=360&make=Ferrari&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&sort=distance&include-delivery-option=on&advertising-location=at_cars&page=1

Maybe that’s the price to pay, but alongside that it’s marked as private sale but has plates saying SCUDERIA, and googling that in west London suggests it’s Verdi, which I’ve not read great things about.

Anyway, it’s not just Ferraris, i had a little bit of this when looking at Porsches, with another well-known dealer assuring me the car was mint. Based on my past issues, i spent £500 getting it inspected which revealed it had been shunted and had a new rear 3/4 panel and the front tub repaired. I don’t know why they thought it was a good idea getting it inspected - maybe they didn’t like me and wanted me to waste money!
 
Red Head said:
I spotted this one - any good?

https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1521784

Or you could try and drop Sam from Seen through glass a line and ask if he’d sell. In one of his recent videos hinted he was at a crossroads about whether to keep the car or time for a change:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDTbc2vditg&t=1275s

Good luck with your search
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Hi, i replied but lost it!

I saw this car, but in my view, it’s quite far over the right money for a car that’s sat for 5 years and has 44k miles, somewhere between £10-20k if the asking for the car i missed out on at Rardley is anything to go by. I paid £10k less for a 17k miler in similar spec from a Ferrari specialist for the car I returned. You might accuse me of wanting my cake and to east it, but i reckon that’s a bit too far outside the circle on the spec / condition / price Venn diagram.

Saying that, I’m relaxed about mileage (44k in 20 years! Porsches dont really have this mileage issue, it’s so weird!).

I chatted to Aldous about STG’s car pre-Christmas and coincidentally followed up with him over the weekend and had a go at emailing STG via his website too. Fingers crossed!
 
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